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[2729] BOOK VII ON SHADOWS
AND REALITIES IN EDUCATION (SOCRATES, GLAUCON.) |
| The analogy of the cave is the most
important of all in the Republic. Study it in detail. |
[2730] AND now, I said,
let me show in a figure how far our nature is enlightened or unenlightened: Behold! human
beings living in an underground den, which has a mouth open toward the light and reaching
all along the den; here they have been from their childhood, and have their legs and necks
chained so that they cannot move, and can only see before them, being prevented by the
chains from turning round their heads. Above and behind them a fire is blazing at a
distance, and between the fire and the prisoners there is a raised way; and you will see,
if you look, a low wall built along the way, like the screen which marionette-players have
in front of them, over which they show the puppets. |
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[2731] I see. |
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[2732] And do you see, I
said, men passing along the wall carrying all sorts of vessels, and statues and figures of
animals made of wood and stone and various materials, which appear over the wall? Some of
them are talking, others silent. |
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[2733] You have shown me a
strange image, and they are strange prisoners. |
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[2734] Like ourselves, I
replied; and they see only their own shadows, or the shadows of one another, which the
fire throws on the opposite wall of the cave? |
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[2735] True, he said; how
could they see anything but the shadows if they were never allowed to move their heads? |
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[2736] And of the objects
which are being carried in like manner they would only see the shadows? |
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[2737] Yes, he said. |
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[2738] And if they were
able to converse with one another, would they not suppose that they were naming what was
actually before them? |
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[2739] Very true. |
|
[2740] And suppose further
that the prison had an echo which came from the other side, would they not be sure to
fancy when one of the passers-by spoke that the voice which they heard came from the
passing shadow? |
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[2741] No question, he
replied. |
|
[2742] To them, I said,
the truth would be literally nothing but the shadows of the images. |
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[2743] That is certain. |
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[2744] And now look again,
and see what will naturally follow if the prisoners are released and disabused of their
error. At first, when any of them is liberated and compelled suddenly to stand up and turn
his neck round and walk and look toward the light, he will suffer sharp pains; the glare
will distress him, and he will be unable to see the realities of which in his former state
he had seen the shadows; and then conceive someone saying to him, that what he saw before
was an illusion, but that now, when he is approaching nearer to being and his eye is
turned toward more real existence, he has a clearer vision--what will be his reply? And
you may further imagine that his instructor is pointing to the objects as they pass and
requiring him to name them--will he not be perplexed? Will he not fancy that the shadows
which he formerly saw are truer than the objects which are now shown to him? |
|
[2745] Far truer. |
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[2746] And if he is
compelled to look straight at the light, will he not have a pain in his eyes which will
make him turn away to take refuge in the objects of vision which he can see, and which he
will conceive to be in reality clearer than the things which are now being shown to him? |
|
[2747] True, he said. |
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[2748] And suppose once
more, that he is reluctantly dragged up a steep and rugged ascent, and held fast until he
is forced into the presence of the sun himself, is he not likely to be pained and
irritated? When he approaches the light his eyes will be dazzled, and he will not be able
to see anything at all of what are now called realities. |
|
[2749] Not all in a
moment, he said. |
|
[2750] He will require to
grow accustomed to the sight of the upper world. And first he will see the shadows best,
next the reflections of men and other objects in the water, and then the objects
themselves; then he will gaze upon the light of the moon and the stars and the spangled
heaven; and he will see the sky and the stars by night better than the sun or the light of
the sun by day? |
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[2751] Certainly. |
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[2752] Last of all he will
be able to see the sun, and not mere reflections of him in the water, but he will see him
in his own proper place, and not in another; and he will contemplate him as he is. |
|
[2753] Certainly. |
|
[2754] He will then
proceed to argue that this is he who gives the season and the years, and is the guardian
of all that is in the visible world, and in a certain way the cause of all things which he
and his fellows have been accustomed to behold? |
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[2755] Clearly, he said,
he would first see the sun and then reason about him. |
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[2756] And when he
remembered his old habitation, and the wisdom of the den and his fellow-prisoners, do you
not suppose that he would felicitate himself on the change, and pity him? |
|
[2757] Certainly, he
would. |
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[2758] And if they were in
the habit of conferring honors among themselves on those who were quickest to observe the
passing shadows and to remark which of them went before, and which followed after, and
which were together; and who were therefore best able to draw conclusions as to the
future, do you think that he would care for such honors and glories, or envy the
possessors of them? Would he not say with Homer, |
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[2759] "Better to be
the poor servant of a poor master," |
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[2760] and to endure
anything, rather than think as they do and live after their manner? |
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[2761] Yes, he said, I
think that he would rather suffer anything than entertain these false notions and live in
this miserable manner. |
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[2762] Imagine once more,
I said, such a one coming suddenly out of the sun to be replaced in his old situation;
would he not be certain to have his eyes full of darkness? |
|
[2763] To be sure, he
said. |
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[2764] And if there were a
contest, and he had to compete in measuring the shadows with the prisoners who had never
moved out of the den, while his sight was still weak, and before his eyes had become
steady (and the time which would be needed to acquire this new habit of sight might be
very considerable), would he not be ridiculous? Men would say of him that up he went and
down he came without his eyes; and that it was better not even to think of ascending; and
if anyone tried to loose another and lead him up to the light, let them only catch the
offender, and they would put him to death. |
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[2765] No question, he
said. |
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[2766] This entire
allegory, I said, you may now append, dear Glaucon, to the previous argument; the
prison-house is the world of sight, the light of the fire is the sun, and you will not
misapprehend me if you interpret the journey upward to be the ascent of the soul into the
intellectual world according to my poor belief, which, at your desire, I have
expressed--whether rightly or wrongly, God knows. But, whether true or false, my opinion
is that in the world of knowledge the idea of good appears last of all, and is seen only
with an effort; and, when seen, is also inferred to be the universal author of all things
beautiful and right, parent of light and of the lord of light in this visible world, and
the immediate source of reason and truth in the intellectual; and that this is the power
upon which he who would act rationally either in public or private life must have his eye
fixed. |
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[2767] I agree, he said,
as far as I am able to understand you. |
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[2768] Moreover, I said,
you must not wonder that those who attain to this beatific vision are unwilling to descend
to human affairs; for their souls are ever hastening into the upper world where they
desire to dwell; which desire of theirs is very natural, if our allegory may be trusted. |
|
[2769] Yes, very natural. |
|
[2770] And is there
anything surprising in one who passes from divine contemplations to the evil state of man,
misbehaving himself in a ridiculous manner; if, while his eyes are blinking and before he
has become accustomed to the surrounding darkness, he is compelled to fight in courts of
law, or in other places, about the images or the shadows of images of justice, and is
endeavoring to meet the conceptions of those who have never yet seen absolute justice? |
|
[2771] Anything but
surprising, he replied. Anyone who has common-sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eyes are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from coming out of the
light or from going into the light, which is true of the mind's eye, quite as much as of
the bodily eye; and he who remembers this when he sees anyone whose vision is perplexed
and weak, will not be too ready to laugh; he will first ask whether that soul of man has
come out of the brighter life, and is unable to see because unaccustomed to the dark, or
having turned from darkness to the day is dazzled by excess of light. And he will count
the one happy in his condition and state of being, and he will pity the other; or, if he
have a mind to laugh at the soul which comes from below into the light, there will be more
reason in this than in the laugh which greets him who returns from above out of the light
into the den. |
|
[2772] That, he said, is a
very just distinction. |
|
[2773] But then, if I am
right, certain professors of education must be wrong when they say that they can put a
knowledge into the soul which was not there before, like sight into blind eyes. |
|
[2774] They undoubtedly
say this, he replied. |
|
[2775] Whereas, our
argument shows that the power and capacity of learning exists in the soul already; and
that just as the eye was unable to turn from darkness to light without the whole body, so
too the instrument of knowledge can only by the movement of the whole soul be turned from
the world of becoming into that of being, and learn by degrees to endure the sight of
being, and of the brightest and best of being, or, in other words, of the good. |
|
[2776] Very true. |
|
[2777] And must there not
be some art which will effect conversion in the easiest and quickest manner; not
implanting the faculty of sight, for that exists already, but has been turned in the wrong
direction, and is looking away from the truth? |
|
[2778] Yes, he said, such
an art may be presumed. |
|
[2779] And whereas the
other so-called virtues of the soul seem to be akin to bodily qualities, for even when
they are not originally innate they can be implanted later by habit and exercise, the
virtue of wisdom more than anything else contains a divine element which always remains,
and by this conversion is rendered useful and profitable; or, on the other hand, hurtful
and useless. Did you never observe the narrow intelligence flashing from the keen eye of a
clever rogue--how eager he is, how clearly his paltry soul sees the way to his end; he is
the reverse of blind, but his keen eyesight is forced into the service of evil, and he is
mischievous in proportion to his cleverness? |
|
[2780] Very true, he said. |
|
[2781] But what if there
had been a circumcision of such natures in the days of their youth; and they had been
severed from those sensual pleasures, such as eating and drinking, which, like leaden
weights, were attached to them at their birth, and which drag them down and turn the
vision of their souls upon the things that are below--if, I say, they had been released
from these impediments and turned in the opposite direction, the very same faculty in them
would have seen the truth as keenly as they see what their eyes are turned to now. |
|
[2782] Very likely. |
|
[2783] Yes, I said; and
there is another thing which is likely, or rather a necessary inference from what has
preceded, that neither the uneducated and uninformed of the truth, nor yet those who never
make an end of their education, will be able ministers of the State; not the former,
because they have no single aim of duty which is the rule of all their actions, private as
well as public; nor the latter, because they will not act at all except upon compulsion,
fancying that they are already dwelling apart in the islands of the blessed. |
|
[2784] Very true, he
replied. |
|
[2785] Then, I said, the
business of us who are the founders of the State will be to compel the best minds to
attain that knowledge which we have already shown to be the greatest of all--they must
continue to ascend until they arrive at the good; but when they have ascended and seen
enough we must not allow them to do as they do now. |
|
[2786] What do you mean? |
|
[2787] I mean that they
remain in the upper world: but this must not be allowed; they must be made to descend
again among the prisoners in the den, and partake of their labors and honors, whether they
are worth having or not. |
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[2788] But is not this
unjust? he said; ought we to give them a worse life, when they might have a better? |
|
[2789] You have again
forgotten, my friend, I said, the intention of the legislator, who did not aim at making
any one class in the State happy above the rest; the happiness was to be in the whole
State, and he held the citizens together by persuasion and necessity, making them
benefactors of the State, and therefore benefactors of one another; to this end he created
them, not to please themselves, but to be his instruments in binding up the State. |
|
[2790] True, he said, I
had forgotten. |
|
[2791] Observe, Glaucon,
that there will be no injustice in compelling our philosophers to have a care and
providence of others; we shall explain to them that in other States, men of their class
are not obliged to share in the toils of politics: and this is reasonable, for they grow
up at their own sweet will, and the government would rather not have them. Being
self-taught, they cannot be expected to show any gratitude for a culture which they have
never received. But we have brought you into the world to be rulers of the hive, kings of
yourselves and of the other citizens, and have educated you far better and more perfectly
than they have been educated, and you are better able to share in the double duty.
Wherefore each of you, when his turn comes, must go down to the general underground abode,
and get the habit of seeing in the dark. When you have acquired the habit, you will see
ten thousand times better than the inhabitants of the den, and you will know what the
several images are, and what they represent, because you have seen the beautiful and just
and good in their truth. And thus our State, which is also yours, will be a reality, and
not a dream only, and will be administered in a spirit unlike that of other States, in
which men fight with one another about shadows only and are distracted in the struggle for
power, which in their eyes is a great good. Whereas the truth is that the State in which
the rulers are most reluctant to govern is always the best and most quietly governed, and
the State in which they are most eager, the worst. |
|
[2792] Quite true, he
replied. |
|
[2793] And will our
pupils, when they hear this, refuse to take their turn at the toils of State, when they
are allowed to spend the greater part of their time with one another in the heavenly
light? |
|
[2794] Impossible, he
answered; for they are just men, and the commands which we impose upon them are just;
there can be no doubt that every one of them will take office as a stern necessity, and
not after the fashion of our present rulers of State. |
|
[2795] Yes, my friend, I
said; and there lies the point. You must contrive for your future rulers another and a
better life than that of a ruler, and then you may have a well-ordered State; for only in
the State which offers this, will they rule who are truly rich, not in silver and gold,
but in virtue and wisdom, which are the true blessings of life. Whereas, if they go to the
administration of public affairs, poor and hungering after their own private advantage,
thinking that hence they are to snatch the chief good, order there can never be; for they
will be fighting about office, and the civil and domestic broils which thus arise will be
the ruin of the rulers themselves and of the whole State. |
|
[2796] Most true, he
replied. |
|
[2797] And the only life
which looks down upon the life of political ambition is that of true philosophy. Do you
know of any other? |
|
[2798] Indeed, I do not,
he said. |
|
[2799] And those who
govern ought not to be lovers of the task? For, if they are, there will be rival lovers,
and they will fight. |
|
[2800] No question. Who,
then, are those whom we shall compel to be guardians? Surely they will be the men who are
wisest about affairs of State, and by whom the State is best administered, and who at the
same time have other honors and another and a better life than that of politics? |
|
[2801] They are the men,
and I will choose them, he replied. |
|
[2802] And now shall we
consider in what way such guardians will be produced, and how they are to be brought from
darkness to light--as some are said to have ascended from the world below to the gods? |
|
[2803] By all means, he
replied. |
|
[2804] The process, I
said, is not the turning over of an oystershell, but the turning round of a soul passing
from a day which is little better than night to the true day of being, that is, the ascent
from below, which we affirm to be true philosophy? |
|
[2805] Quite so. |
| What is the specific sequence of studies
prescribed for the philosopher? Why is each topic studied and why in the order lais down? |
[2806] And should we not
inquire what sort of knowledge has the power of effecting such a change? |
|
[2807] Certainly. |
|
[2808] What sort of
knowledge is there which would draw the soul from becoming to being? And another
consideration has just occurred to me: You will remember that our young men are to be
warrior athletes? |
|
[2809] Yes, that was said. |
|
[2810] Then this new kind
of knowledge must have an additional quality? |
|
[2811] What quality? |
|
[2812] Usefulness in war. |
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[2813] Yes, if possible. |
|
[2814] There were two
parts in our former scheme of education, were there not? |
|
[2815] Just so. |
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[2816] There was
gymnastics, which presided over the growth and decay of the body, and may therefore be
regarded as having to do with generation and corruption? |
|
[2817] True. |
|
[2818] Then that is not
the knowledge which we are seeking to discover? No. |
|
[2819] But what do you say
of music, what also entered to a certain extent into our former scheme? |
|
[2820] Music, he said, as
you will remember, was the counterpart of gymnastics, and trained the guardians by the
influences of habit, by harmony making them harmonious, by rhythm rhythmical, but not
giving them science; and the words, whether fabulous or possibly true, had kindred
elements of rhythm and harmony in them. But in music there was nothing which tended to
that good which you are now seeking. |
|
[2821] You are most
accurate, I said, in your recollection; in music there certainly was nothing of the kind.
But what branch of knowledge is there, my dear Glaucon, which is of the desired nature;
since all the useful arts were reckoned mean by us? |
|
[2822] Undoubtedly; and
yet if music and gymnastics are excluded, and the arts are also excluded, what remains? |
|
[2823] Well, I said, there
may be nothing left of our special subjects; and then we shall have to take something
which is not special, but of the universal application. |
|
[2824] What may that be? |
|
[2825] A something which
all arts and sciences and intelligences use in common, and which everyone first has to
learn among the elements of education. |
|
[2826] What is that? |
|
[2827] The little matter
of distinguishing one, two, and three--in a word, number and calculation: do not all arts
and sciences necessarily partake of them? |
|
[2828] Yes. |
|
[2829] Then the art of war
partakes of them? |
|
[2830] To be sure. |
|
[2831] Then Palamedes,
whenever he appears in tragedy, proves Agamemnon ridiculously unfit to be a general. Did
you never remark how he declares that he had invented number, and had numbered the ships
and set in array the ranks of the army at Troy; which implies that they had never been
numbered before, and Agamemnon must be supposed literally to have been incapable of
counting his own fleet--how could he if he was ignorant of number? And if that is true,
what sort of general must he have been? |
|
[2832] I should say a very
strange one, if this was as you say. |
|
[2833] Can we deny that a
warrior should have a knowledge of arithmetic? |
|
[2834] Certainly he
should, if he is to have the smallest understanding of military tactics, or indeed, I
should rather say, if he is to be a man at all. |
|
[2835] I should like to
know whether you have the same notion which I have of this study? |
|
[2836] What is your
notion? |
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[2837] It appears to me to
be a study of the kind which we are seeking, and which leads naturally to reflection, but
never to have been rightly used; for the true use of it is simply to draw the soul toward
being. |
|
[2838] Will you explain
your meaning? he said. |
|
[2839] I will try, I said;
and I wish you would share the inquiry with me, and say "yes" or "no"
when I attempt to distinguish in my own mind what branches of knowledge have this
attracting power, in order that we may have clearer proof that arithmetic is, as I
suspect, one of them. |
|
[2840] Explain, he said. |
|
[2841] I mean to say that
objects of sense are of two kinds; some of them do not invite thought because the sense is
an adequate judge of them; while in the case of other objects sense is so untrustworthy
that further inquiry is imperatively demanded. |
|
[2842] You are clearly
referring, he said, to the manner in which the senses are imposed upon by distance, and by
painting in light and shade. |
|
[2843] No, I said, that is
not at all my meaning. |
|
[2844] Then what is your
meaning? |
|
[2845] When speaking of
uninviting objects, I mean those which do not pass from one sensation to the opposite;
inviting objects are those which do; in this latter case the sense coming upon the object,
whether at a distance or near, gives no more vivid idea of anything in particular than of
its opposite. An illustration will make my meaning clearer: here are three fingers-a
little finger, a second finger, and a middle finger. |
|
[2846] Very good. |
|
[2847] You may suppose
that they are seen quite close: And here comes the point. |
|
[2848] What is it? |
|
[2849] Each of them
equally appears a finger, whether seen in the middle or at the extremity, whether white or
black, or thick or thin--it makes no difference; a finger is a finger all the same. In
these cases a man is not compelled to ask of thought the question, What is a finger? for
the sight never intimates to the mind that a finger is other than a finger. |
|
[2850] True. |
|
[2851] And therefore, I
said, as we might expect, there is nothing here which invites or excites intelligence. |
|
[2852] There is not, he
said. |
|
[2853] But is this equally
true of the greatness and smallness of the fingers? Can sight adequately perceive them?
and is no difference made by the circumstance that one of the fingers is in the middle and
the other at the extremity? And in like manner does the touch adequately perceive the
qualities of thickness or thinness, of softness or hardness? And so of the other senses;
do they give perfect intimations of such matters? Is not their mode of operation on this
wise--the sense which is concerned with the quality of hardness is necessarily concerned
also with the quality of softness, and only intimates to the soul that the same thing is
felt to be both hard and soft? |
|
[2854] You are quite
right, he said. |
|
[2855] And must not the
soul be perplexed at this intimation which the sense gives of a hard which is also soft?
What, again, is the meaning of light and heavy, if that which is light is also heavy, and
that which is heavy, light? |
|
[2856] Yes, he said, these
intimations which the soul receives are very curious and require to be explained. |
|
[2857] Yes, I said, and in
these perplexities the soul naturally summons to her aid calculation and intelligence,
that she may see whether the several objects announced to her are one or two. |
|
[2858] True. |
|
[2859] And if they turn
out to be two, is not each of them one and different? |
|
[2860] Certainly. |
|
[2861] And if each is one,
and both are two, she will conceive the two as in a state of division, for if they were
undivided they could only be conceived of as one? |
|
[2862] True. |
|
[2863] The eye certainly
did see both small and great, but only in a confused manner; they were not distinguished. |
|
[2864] Yes. |
|
[2865] Whereas the
thinking mind, intending to light up the chaos, was compelled to reverse the process, and
look at small and great as separate and not confused. |
|
[2866] Very true. |
|
[2867] Was not this the
beginning of the inquiry, "What is great?" and "What is small?" |
|
[2868] Exactly so. |
|
[2869] And thus arose the
distinction of the visible and the intelligible. |
|
[2870] Most true. |
|
[2871] This was what I
meant when I spoke of impressions which invited the intellect, or the reverse--those which
are simultaneous with opposite impressions, invite thought; those which are not
simultaneous do not. |
|
[2872] I understand, he
said, and agree with you. |
|
[2873] And to which class
do unity and number belong? |
|
[2874] I do not know, he
replied. |
|
[2875] Think a little and
you will see that what has preceded will supply the answer; for if simple unity could be
adequately perceived by the sight or by any other sense, then, as we were saying in the
case of the finger, there would be nothing to attract toward being; but when there is some
contradiction always present, and one is the reverse of one and involves the conception of
plurality, then thought begins to be aroused within us, and the soul perplexed and wanting
to arrive at a decision asks, "What is absolute unity?" This is the way in which
the study of the one has a power of drawing and converting the mind to the contemplation
of true being. |
|
[2876] And surely, he
said, this occurs notably in the case of one; for we see the same thing to be both one and
infinite in multitude? |
|
[2877] Yes, I said; and
this being true of one must be equally true of all number? |
|
[2878] Certainly. |
|
[2879] And all arithmetic
and calculation have to do with number? |
|
[2880] Yes. |
|
[2881] And they appear to
lead the mind toward truth? |
|
[2882] Yes, in a very
remarkable manner. |
|
[2883] Then this is
knowledge of the kind for which we are seeking, having a double use, military and
philosophical; for the man of war must learn the art of number or he will not know how to
array his troops, and the philosopher also, because he has to rise out of the sea of
change and lay hold of true being, and therefore he must be an arithmetician. |
|
[2884] That is true. |
|
[2885] And our guardian is
both warrior and philosopher? |
|
[2886] Certainly. |
|
[2887] Then this is a kind
of knowledge which legislation may fitly prescribe; and we must endeavor to persuade those
who are to be the principal men of our State to go and learn arithmetic, not as amateurs,
but they must carry on the study until they see the nature of numbers with the mind only;
nor again, like merchants or retail-traders, with a view to buying or selling, but for the
sake of their military use, and of the soul herself; and because this will be the easiest
way for her to pass from becoming to truth and being. |
|
[2888] That is excellent,
he said. |
|
[2889] Yes, I said, and
now having spoken of it, I must add how charming the science is! and in how many ways it
conduces to our desired end, if pursued in the spirit of a philosopher, and not of a
shopkeeper! |
|
[2890] How do you mean? |
|
[2891] I mean, as I was
saying, that arithmetic has a very great and elevating effect, compelling the soul to
reason about abstract number, and rebelling against the introduction of visible or
tangible objects into the argument. You know how steadily the masters of the art repel and
ridicule anyone who attempts to divide absolute unity when he is calculating, and if you
divide, they multiply, taking care that one shall continue one and not become lost in
fractions. |
|
[2892] That is very true. |
|
[2893] Now, suppose a
person were to say to them: O my friends, what are these wonderful numbers about which you
are reasoning, in which, as you say, there is a unity such as you demand, and each unit is
equal, invariable, indivisible--what would they answer? |
|
[2894] They would answer,
as I should conceive, that they were speaking of those numbers which can only be realized
in thought. |
|
[2895] Then you see that
this knowledge may be truly called necessary, necessitating as it clearly does the use of
the pure intelligence in the attainment of pure truth? |
|
[2896] Yes; that is a
marked characteristic of it. |
|
[2897] And have you
further observed that those who have a natural talent for calculation are generally quick
at every other kind of knowledge; and even the dull, if they have had an arithmetical
training, although they may derive no other advantage from it, always become much quicker
than they would otherwise have been? |
|
[2898] Very true, he said. |
|
[2899] And indeed, you
will not easily find a more difficult study, and not many as difficult. |
|
[2900] You will not. |
|
[2901] And, for all these
reasons, arithmetic is a kind of knowledge in which the best natures should be trained,
and which must not be given up. |
|
[2902] I agree. |
|
[2903] Let this then be
made one of our subjects of education. And next, shall we inquire whether the kindred
science also concerns us? |
|
[2904] You mean geometry? |
|
[2905] Exactly so. |
|
[2906] Clearly, he said,
we are concerned with that part of geometry which relates to war; for in pitching a camp
or taking up a position or closing or extending the lines of an army, or any other
military manoeuvre, whether in actual battle or on a march, it will make all the
difference whether a general is or is not a geometrician. |
|
[2907] Yes, I said, but
for that purpose a very little of either geometry or calculation will be enough; the
question relates rather to the greater and more advanced part of geometry--whether that
tends in any degree to make more easy the vision of the idea of good; and thither, as I
was saying, all things tend which compel the soul to turn her gaze toward that place,
where is the full perfection of being, which she ought, by all means, to behold. |
|
[2908] True, he said. |
|
[2909] Then if geometry
compels us to view being, it concerns us; if becoming only, it does not concern us? |
|
[2910] Yes, that is what
we assert. |
|
[2911] Yet anybody who has
the least acquaintance with geometry will not deny that such a conception of the science
is in flat contradiction to the ordinary language of geometricians. |
|
[2912] How so? |
|
[2913] They have in view
practice only, and are always speaking, in a narrow and ridiculous manner, of squaring and
extending and applying and the like--they confuse the necessities of geometry with those
of daily life; whereas knowledge is the real object of the whole science. |
|
[2914] Certainly, he said. |
|
[2915] Then must not a
further admission be made? |
|
[2916] What admission? |
|
[2917] That the knowledge
at which geometry aims is knowledge of the eternal, and not of aught perishing and
transient. |
|
[2918] That, he replied,
may be readily allowed, and is true. |
|
[2919] Then, my noble
friend, geometry will draw the soul toward truth, and create the spirit of philosophy, and
raise up that which is now unhappily allowed to fall down. |
|
[2920] Nothing will be
more likely to have such an effect. |
|
[2921] Then nothing should
be more sternly laid down than that the inhabitants of your fair city should by all means
learn geometry. Moreover, the science has indirect effects, which are not small. |
|
[2922] Of what kind? he
said. |
|
[2923] There are the
military advantages of which you spoke, I said; and in all departments of knowledge, as
experience proves, anyone who has studied geometry is infinitely quicker of apprehension
than one who has not. Yes, indeed, he said, there is an infinite difference between them. |
|
[2924] Then shall we
propose this as a second branch of knowledge which our youth will study? |
|
[2925] Let us do so, he
replied. |
|
[2926] And suppose we make
astronomy the third--what do you say? |
|
[2927] I am strongly
inclined to it, he said; the observation of the seasons and of months and years is as
essential to the general as it is to the farmer or sailor. |
|
[2928] I am amused, I
said, at your fear of the world, which makes you guard against the appearance of insisting
upon useless studies; and I quite admit the difficulty of believing that in every man
there is an eye of the soul which, when by other pursuits lost and dimmed, is by these
purified and reillumined; and is more precious far than ten thousand bodily eyes, for by
it alone is truth seen. Now there are two classes of persons: one class of those who will
agree with you and will take your words as a revelation; another class to whom they will
be utterly unmeaning, and who will naturally deem them to be idle tales, for they see no
sort of profit which is to be obtained from them. And therefore you had better decide at
once with which of the two you are proposing to argue. You will very likely say with
neither, and that your chief aim in carrying on the argument is your own improvement; at
the same time you do not grudge to others any benefit which they may receive. |
|
[2929] I think that I
should prefer to carry on the argument mainly on my own behalf. |
|
[2930] Then take a step
backward, for we have gone wrong in the order of the sciences. |
|
[2931] What was the
mistake? he said. |
|
[2932] After plane
geometry, I said, we proceeded at once to solids in revolution, instead of taking solids
in themselves; whereas after the second dimension, the third, which is concerned with
cubes and dimensions of depth, ought to have followed. |
|
[2933] That is true,
Socrates; but so little seems to be known as yet about these subjects. |
|
[2934] Why, yes, I said,
and for two reasons: in the first place, no government patronizes them; this leads to a
want of energy in the pursuit of them, and they are difficult; in the second place,
students cannot learn them unless they have a director. But then a director can hardly be
found, and, even if he could, as matters now stand, the students, who are very conceited,
would not attend to him. That, however, would be otherwise if the whole State became the
director of these studies and gave honor to them; then disciples would want to come, and
there would be continuous and earnest search, and discoveries would be made; since even
now, disregarded as they are by the world, and maimed of their fair proportions, and
although none of their votaries can tell the use of them, still these studies force their
way by their natural charm, and very likely, if they had the help of the State, they would
some day emerge into light. |
|
[2935] Yes, he said, there
is a remarkable charm in them. But I do not clearly understand the change in the order.
First you began with a geometry of plane surfaces? |
|
[2936] Yes, I said. |
|
[2937] And you placed
astronomy next, and then you made a step backward? |
|
[2938] Yes, and I have
delayed you by my hurry; the ludicrous state of solid geometry, which, in natural order,
should have followed, made me pass over this branch and go on to astronomy, or motion of
solids. |
|
[2939] True, he said. |
|
[2940] Then assuming that
the science now omitted would come into existence if encouraged by the State, let us go on
to astronomy, which will be fourth. |
|
[2941] The right order, he
replied. And now, Socrates, as you rebuked the vulgar manner in which I praised astronomy
before, my praise shall be given in your own spirit. For everyone, as I think, must see
that astronomy compels the soul to look upward and leads us from this world to another.
Everyone but myself, I said; to everyone else this may be clear, but not to me. |
|
[2942] And what, then,
would you say? |
|
[2943] I should rather say
that those who elevate astronomy into philosophy appear to me to make us look downward,
and not upward. |
|
[2944] What do you mean?
he asked. |
|
[2945] You, I replied,
have in your mind a truly sublime conception of our knowledge of the things above. And I
dare say that if a person were to throw his head back and study the fretted ceiling, you
would still think that his mind was the percipient, and not his eyes. And you are very
likely right, and I may be a simpleton: but, in my opinion, that knowledge only which is
of being and of the unseen can make the soul look upward, and whether a man gapes at the
heavens or blinks on the ground, seeking to learn some particular of sense, I would deny
that he can learn, for nothing of that sort is matter of science; his soul is looking
downward, not upward, whether his way to knowledge is by water or by land, whether he
floats or only lies on his back. |
|
[2946] I acknowledge, he
said, the justice of your rebuke. Still, I should like to ascertain how astronomy can be
learned in any manner more conducive to that knowledge of which we are speaking? |
|
[2947] I will tell you, I
said: The starry heaven which we behold is wrought upon a visible ground, and therefore,
although the fairest and most perfect of visible things, must necessarily be deemed
inferior far to the true motions of absolute swiftness and absolute slowness, which are
relative to each other, and carry with them that which is contained in them, in the true
number and in every true figure. Now, these are to be apprehended by reason and
intelligence, but not by sight. |
|
[2948] True, he replied. |
|
[2949] The spangled
heavens should be used as a pattern and with a view to that higher knowledge; their beauty
is like the beauty of figures or pictures excellently wrought by the hand of Daedalus, or
some other great artist, which we may chance to behold; any geometrician who saw them
would appreciate the exquisiteness of their workmanship, but he would never dream of
thinking that in them he could find the true equal or the true double, or the truth of any
other proportion. |
|
[2950] No, he replied,
such an idea would be ridiculous. |
|
[2951] And will not a true
astronomer have the same feeling when he looks at the movements of the stars? Will he not
think that heaven and the things in heaven are framed by the Creator of them in the most
perfect manner? But he will never imagine that the proportions of night and day, or of
both to the month, or of the month to the year, or of the stars to these and to one
another, and any other things that are material and visible can also be eternal and
subject to no deviation--that would be absurd; and it is equally absurd to take so much
pains in investigating their exact truth. |
|
[2952] I quite agree,
though I never thought of this before. |
|
[2953] Then, I said, in
astronomy, as in geometry, we should employ problems, and let the heavens alone if we
would approach the subject in the right way and so make the natural gift of reason to be
of any real use. |
|
[2954] That, he said, is a
work infinitely beyond our present astronomers. |
|
[2955] Yes, I said; and
there are many other things which must also have a similar extension given to them, if our
legislation is to be of any value. But can you tell me of any other suitable study? |
|
[2956] No, he said, not
without thinking. |
|
[2957] Motion, I said, has
many forms, and not one only; two of them are obvious enough even to wits no better than
ours; and there are others, as I imagine, which may be left to wiser persons. |
|
[2958] But where are the
two? |
|
[2959] There is a second,
I said, which is the counterpart of the one already named. |
|
[2960] And what may that
be? |
|
[2961] The second, I said,
would seem relatively to the ears to be what the first is to the eyes; for I conceive that
as the eyes are designed to look up at the stars, so are the ears to hear harmonious
motions; and these are sister sciences--as the Pythagoreans say, and we, Glaucon, agree
with them? |
|
[2962] Yes, he replied. |
|
[2963] But this, I said,
is a laborious study, and therefore we had better go and learn of them; and they will tell
us whether there are any other applications of these sciences. At the same time, we must
not lose sight of our own higher object. |
|
[2964] What is that? |
|
[2965] There is a
perfection which all knowledge ought to reach, and which our pupils ought also to attain,
and not to fall short of, as I was saying that they did in astronomy. For in the science
of harmony, as you probably know, the same thing happens. The teachers of harmony compare
the sounds and consonances which are heard only, and their labor, like that of the
astronomers, is in vain. |
|
[2966] Yes, by heaven! he
said; and 'tis as good as a play to hear them talking about their condensed notes, as they
call them; they put their ears close alongside of the strings like persons catching a
sound from their neighbor's wall--one set of them declaring that they distinguish an
intermediate note and have found the least interval which should be the unit of
measurement; the others insisting that the two sounds have passed into the same--either
party setting their ears before their understanding. |
|
[2967] You mean, I said,
those gentlemen who tease and torture the strings and rack them on the pegs of the
instrument: I might carry on the metaphor and speak after their manner of the blows which
the plectrum gives, and make accusations against the strings, both of backwardness and
forwardness to sound; but this would be tedious, and therefore I will only say that these
are not the men, and that I am referring to the Pythagoreans, of whom I was just now
proposing to inquire about harmony. For they too are in error, like the astronomers; they
investigate the numbers of the harmonies which are heard, but they never attain to
problems--that is to say, they never reach the natural harmonies of number, or reflect why
some numbers are harmonious and others not. |
|
[2968] That, he said, is a
thing of more than mortal knowledge. |
|
[2969] A thing, I replied,
which I would rather call useful; that is, if sought after with a view to the beautiful
and good; but if pursued in any other spirit, useless. Very true, he said. |
|
[2970] Now, when all these
studies reach the point of intercommunion and connection with one another, and come to be
considered in their mutual affinities, then, I think, but not till then, will the pursuit
of them have a value for our objects; otherwise there is no profit in them. |
|
[2971] I suspect so; but
you are speaking, Socrates, of a vast work. |
|
[2972] What do you mean? I
said; the prelude, or what? Do you not know that all this is but the prelude to the actual
strain which we have to learn? For you surely would not regard the skilled mathematician
as a dialectician? |
|
[2973] Assuredly not, he
said; I have hardly ever known a mathematician who was capable of reasoning. |
|
[2974] But do you imagine
that men who are unable to give and take a reason will have the knowledge which we require
of them? |
|
[2975] Neither can this be
supposed. |
| What is the dialectic? What will be learned
from it? |
[2976] And so, Glaucon, I
said, we have at last arrived at the hymn of dialectic. This is that strain which is of
the intellect only, but which the faculty of sight will nevertheless be found to imitate;
for sight, as you may remember, was imagined by us after a while to behold the real
animals and stars, and last of all the sun himself. And so with dialectic; when a person
starts on the discovery of the absolute by the light of reason only, and without any
assistance of sense, and perseveres until by pure intelligence he arrives at the
perception of the absolute good, he at last finds himself at the end of the intellectual
world, as in the case of sight at the end of the visible. |
|
[2977] Exactly, he said. |
|
[2978] Then this is the
progress which you call dialectic? |
|
[2979] True. |
|
[2980] But the release of
the prisoners from chains, and their translation from the shadows to the images and to the
light, and the ascent from the underground den to the sun, while in his presence they are
vainly trying to look on animals and plants and the light of the sun, but are able to
perceive even with their weak eyes the images in the water (which are divine), and are the
shadows of true existence (not shadows of images cast by a light of fire, which compared
with the sun is only an image)--this power of elevating the highest principle in the soul
to the contemplation of that which is best in existence, with which we may compare the
raising of that faculty which is the very light of the body to the sight of that which is
brightest in the material and visible world--this power is given, as I was saying, by all
that study and pursuit of the arts which have been described. |
|
[2981] I agree in what you
are saying, he replied, which may be hard to believe, yet, from another point of view, is
harder still to deny. This, however, is not a theme to be treated of in passing only, but
will have to be discussed again and again. And so, whether our conclusion be true or
false, let us assume all this, and proceed at once from the prelude or preamble to the
chief strain, and describe that in like manner. Say, then, what is the nature and what are
the divisions of dialectic, and what are the paths which lead thither; for these paths
will also lead to our final rest. |
|
[2982] Dear Glaucon, I
said, you will not be able to follow me here, though I would do my best, and you should
behold not an image only, but the absolute truth, according to my notion. Whether what I
told you would or would not have been a reality I cannot venture to say; but you would
have seen something like reality; of that I am confident. |
|
[2983] Doubtless, he
replied. |
|
[2984] But I must also
remind you that the power of dialectic alone can reveal this, and only to one who is a
disciple of the previous sciences. |
|
[2985] Of that assertion
you may be as confident as of the last. |
|
[2986] And assuredly no
one will argue that there is any other method of comprehending by any regular process all
true existence, or of ascertaining what each thing is in its own nature; for the arts in
general are concerned with the desires or opinions of men, or are cultivated with a view
to production and construction, or for the preservation of such productions and
constructions; and as to the mathematical sciences which, as we were saying, have some
apprehension of true being--geometry and the like--they only dream about being, but never
can they behold the waking reality so long as they leave the hypotheses which they use
unexamined, and are unable to give an account of them. For when a man knows not his own
first principle, and when the conclusion and intermediate steps are also constructed out
of he knows not what, how can he imagine that such a fabric of convention can ever become
science? |
|
[2987] Impossible, he
said. |
|
[2988] Then dialectic, and
dialectic alone, goes directly to the first principle and is the only science which does
away with hypotheses in order to make her ground secure; the eye of the soul, which is
literally buried in an outlandish slough, is by her gentle aid lifted upward; and she uses
as handmaids and helpers in the work of conversion, the sciences which we have been
discussing. Custom terms them sciences, but they ought to have some other name, implying
greater clearness than opinion and less clearness than science: and this, in our previous
sketch, was called understanding. But why should we dispute about names when we have
realities of such importance to consider? Why, indeed, he said, when any name will do
which expresses the thought of the mind with clearness? |
|
[2989] At any rate, we are
satisfied, as before, to have four divisions; two for intellect and two for opinion, and
to call the first division science, the second understanding, the third belief, and the
fourth perception of shadows, opinion being concerned with becoming, and intellect with
being; and so to make a proportion: |
|
[2990] "As being is
to becoming, so is pure intellect to opinion. And as intellect is to opinion, so is
science to belief, and understand ing to the perception of shadows." |
|
[2991] But let us defer
the further correlation and subdivision of the subjects of opinion and of intellect, for
it will be a long inquiry, many times longer than this has been. |
|
[2992] As far as I
understand, he said, I agree. |
|
[2993] And do you also
agree, I said, in describing the dialectician as one who attains a conception of the
essence of each thing? And he who does not possess and is therefore unable to impart this
conception, in whatever degree he fails, may in that degree also be said to fail in
intelligence? Will you admit so much? |
|
[2994] Yes, he said; how
can I deny it? |
|
[2995] And you would say
the same of the conception of the good? |
|
[2996] Until the person is
able to abstract and define rationally the idea of good, and unless he can run the
gauntlet of all objections, and is ready to disprove them, not by appeals to opinion, but
to absolute truth, never faltering at any step of the argument--unless he can do all this,
you would say that he knows neither the idea of good nor any other good; he apprehends
only a shadow, if anything at all, which is given by opinion, and not by science; dreaming
and slumbering in this life, before he is well awake here, he arrives at the world below,
and has his final quietus. |
|
[2997] In all that I
should most certainly agree with you. |
|
[2998] And surely you
would not have the children of your ideal State, whom you are nurturing and educating--if
the ideal ever becomes a reality--you would not allow the future rulers to be like posts,
having no reason in them, and yet to be set in authority over the highest matters? |
|
[2999] Certainly not. |
|
[3000] Then you will make
a law that they shall have such an education as will enable them to attain the greatest
skill in asking and answering questions? |
|
[3001] Yes, he said, you
and I together will make it. |
|
[3002] Dialectic, then, as
you will agree, is the coping-stone of the sciences, and is set over them; no other
science can be placed higher--the nature of knowledge can no further go? |
|
[3003] I agree, he said. |
| How will philosopher-candidates be chosen? |
[3004] But to whom we are
to assign these studies, and in what way they are to be assigned, are questions which
remain to be considered. |
|
[3005] Yes, clearly. |
|
[3006] You remember, I
said, how the rulers were chosen before? |
|
[3007] Certainly, he said. |
|
[3008] The same natures
must still be chosen, and the preference again given to the surest and the bravest, and,
if possible, to the fairest; and, having noble and generous tempers, they should also have
the natural gifts which will facilitate their education. |
|
[3009] And what are these? |
|
[3010] Such gifts as
keenness and ready powers of acquisition; for the mind more often faints from the severity
of study than from the severity of gymnastics: the toil is more entirely the mind's own,
and is not shared with the body. |
|
[3011] Very true, he
replied. |
|
[3012] Further, he of whom
we are in search should have a good memory, and be an unwearied solid man who is a lover
of labor in any line; or he will never be able to endure the great amount of bodily
exercise and to go through all the intellectual discipline and study which we require of
him. |
|
[3013] Certainly, he said;
he must have natural gifts. |
|
[3014] The mistake at
present is that those who study philosophy have no vocation, and this, as I was before
saying, is the reason why she has fallen into disrepute: her true sons should take her by
the hand, and not bastards. |
|
[3015] What do you mean? |
|
[3016] In the first place,
her votary should not have a lame or halting industry--I mean, that he should not be half
industrious and half idle: as, for example, when a man is a lover of gymnastics and
hunting, and all other bodily exercises, but a hater rather than a lover of the labor of
learning or listening or inquiring. Or the occupation to which he devotes himself may be
of an opposite kind, and he may have the other sort of lameness. |
|
[3017] Certainly, he said. |
|
[3018] And as to truth, I
said, is not a soul equally to be deemed halt and lame which hates voluntary falsehood and
is extremely indignant at herself and others when they tell lies, but is patient of
involuntary falsehood, and does not mind wallowing like a swinish beast in the mire of
ignorance, and has no shame at being detected? |
|
[3019] To be sure. |
|
[3020] And, again, in
respect of temperance, courage, magnificence, and every other virtue, should we not
carefully distinguish between the true son and the bastard? for where there is no
discernment of such qualities, States and individuals unconsciously err; and the State
makes a ruler, and the individual a friend, of one who, being defective in some part of
virtue, is in a figure lame or a bastard. |
|
[3021] That is very true,
he said. |
|
[3022] All these things,
then, will have to be carefully considered by us; and if only those whom we introduce to
this vast system of education and training are sound in body and mind, justice herself
will have nothing to say against us, and we shall be the saviours of the constitution and
of the State; but, if our pupils are men of another stamp, the reverse will happen, and we
shall pour a still greater flood of ridicule on philosophy than she has to endure at
present. |
|
[3023] That would not be
creditable. |
|
[3024] Certainly not, I
said; and yet perhaps, in thus turning jest into earnest I am equally ridiculous. |
|
[3025] In what respect? |
|
[3026] I had forgotten, I
said, that we were not serious, and spoke with too much excitement. For when I saw
philosophy so undeservedly trampled under foot of men I could not help feeling a sort of
indignation at the authors of her disgrace: and my anger made me too vehement. |
|
[3027] Indeed! I was
listening, and did not think so. |
|
[3028] But I, who am the
speaker, felt that I was. And now let me remind you that, although in our former selection
we chose old men, we must not do so in this. Solon was under a delusion when he said that
a man when he grows old may learn many things--for he can no more learn much than he can
run much; youth is the time for any extraordinary toil. |
|
[3029] Of course. |
|
[3030] And, therefore,
calculation and geometry and all the other elements of instruction, which are a
preparation for dialectic, should be presented to the mind in childhood; not, however,
under any notion of forcing our system of education. |
|
[3031] Why not? |
|
[3032] Because a freeman
ought not to be a slave in the acquisition of knowledge of any kind. Bodily exercise, when
compulsory, does no harm to the body; but knowledge which is acquired under compulsion
obtains no hold on the mind. |
|
[3033] Very true. |
|
[3034] Then, my good
friend, I said, do not use compulsion, but let early education be a sort of amusement; you
will then be better able to find out the natural bent. |
|
[3035] That is a very
rational notion, he said. |
|
[3036] Do you remember
that the children, too, were to be taken to see the battle on horseback; and that if there
were no danger they were to be brought close up and, like young hounds, have a taste of
blood given them? |
|
[3037] Yes, I remember. |
|
[3038] The same practice
may be followed, I said, in all these things --labors, lessons, dangers--and he who is
most at home in all of them ought to be enrolled in a select number. |
|
[3039] At what age? |
|
[3040] At the age when the
necessary gymnastics are over: the period, whether of two or three years, which passes in
this sort of training is useless for any other purpose; for sleep and exercise are
unpropitious to learning; and the trial of who is first in gymnastic exercises is one of
the most important tests to which our youth are subjected. |
|
[3041] Certainly, he
replied. |
|
[3042] After that time
those who are selected from the class of twenty years old will be promoted to higher
honor, and the sciences which they learned without any order in their early education will
now be brought together, and they will be able to see the natural relationship of them to
one another and to true being. |
|
[3043] Yes, he said, that
is the only kind of knowledge which takes lasting root. |
|
[3044] Yes, I said; and
the capacity for such knowledge is the great criterion of dialectical talent: the
comprehensive mind is always the dialectical. |
|
[3045] I agree with you,
he said. |
| What is the danger of the dialectic? |
[3046] These, I said, are
the points which you must consider; and those who have most of this comprehension, and who
are most steadfast in their learning, and in their military and other appointed duties,
when they have arrived at the age of thirty will have to be chosen by you out of the
select class, and elevated to higher honor; and you will have to prove them by the help of
dialectic, in order to learn which of them is able to give up the use of sight and the
other senses, and in company with truth to attain absolute being: And here, my friend,
great caution is required. |
|
[3047] Why great caution? |
|
[3048] Do you not remark,
I said, how great is the evil which dialectic has introduced? |
|
[3049] What evil? he said. |
|
[3050] The students of the
art are filled with lawlessness. |
|
[3051] Quite true, he
said. |
|
[3052] Do you think that
there is anything so very unnatural or inexcusable in their case? or will you make
allowance for them? |
|
[3053] In what way make
allowance? |
|
[3054] I want you, I said,
by way of parallel, to imagine a supposititious son who is brought up in great wealth; he
is one of a great and numerous family, and has many flatterers. When he grows up to
manhood, he learns that his alleged are not his real parents; but who the real are he is
unable to discover. Can you guess how he will be likely to behave toward his flatterers
and his supposed parents, first of all during the period when he is ignorant of the false
relation, and then again when he knows? Or shall I guess for you? |
|
[3055] If you please. |
|
[3056] Then I should say
that while he is ignorant of the truth he will be likely to honor his father and his
mother and his supposed relations more than the flatterers; he will be less inclined to
neglect them when in need, or to do or say anything against them; and he will be less
willing to disobey them in any important matter. |
|
[3057] He will. |
|
[3058] But when he has
made the discovery, I should imagine that he would diminish his honor and regard for them,
and would become more devoted to the flatterers; their influence over him would greatly
increase; he would now live after their ways, and openly associate with them, and, unless
he were of an unusually good disposition, he would trouble himself no more about his
supposed parents or other relations. |
|
[3059] Well, all that is
very probable. But how is the image applicable to the disciples of philosophy? |
|
[3060] In this way: you
know that there are certain principles about justice and honor, which were taught us in
childhood, and under their parental authority we have been brought up, obeying and
honoring them. |
|
[3061] That is true. |
|
[3062] There are also
opposite maxims and habits of pleasure which flatter and attract the soul, but do not
influence those of us who have any sense of right, and they continue to obey and honor the
maxims of their fathers. |
|
[3063] True. |
|
[3064] Now, when a man is
in this state, and the questioning spirit asks what is fair or honorable, and he answers
as the legislator has taught him, and then arguments many and diverse refute his words,
until he is driven into believing that nothing is honorable any more than dishonorable, or
just and good any more than the reverse, and so of all the notions which he most valued,
do you think that he will still honor and obey them as before? |
|
[3065] Impossible. |
|
[3066] And when he ceases
to think them honorable and natural as heretofore, and he fails to discover the true, can
he be expected to pursue any life other than that which flatters his desires? |
|
[3067] He cannot. |
|
[3068] And from being a
keeper of the law he is converted into a breaker of it? |
|
[3069] Unquestionably. |
|
[3070] Now all this is
very natural in students of philosophy such as I have described, and also, as I was just
now saying, most excusable. |
|
[3071] Yes, he said; and,
I may add, pitiable. |
|
[3072] Therefore, that
your feelings may not be moved to pity about our citizens who are now thirty years of age,
every care must be taken in introducing them to dialectic. |
|
[3073] Certainly. |
|
[3074] There is a danger
lest they should taste the dear delight too early; for youngsters, as you may have
observed, when they first get the taste in their mouths, argue for amusement, and are
always contradicting and refuting others in imitation of those who refute them; like
puppy-dogs, they rejoice in pulling and tearing at all who come near them. |
|
[3075] Yes, he said, there
is nothing which they like better. |
|
[3076] And when they have
made many conquests and received defeats at the hands of many, they violently and speedily
get into a way of not believing anything which they believed before, and hence, not only
they, but philosophy and all that relates to it is apt to have a bad name with the rest of
the world. |
|
[3077] Too true, he said. |
|
[3078] But when a man
begins to get older, he will no longer be guilty of such insanity; he will imitate the
dialectician who is seeking for truth, and not the eristic, who is contradicting for the
sake of amusement; and the greater moderation of his character will increase instead of
diminishing the honor of the pursuit. |
|
[3079] Very true, he said. |
| What follows education in the dialectic
before the philosopher becomes ruler? |
[3080] And did we not make
special provision for this, when we said that the disciples of philosophy were to be
orderly and steadfast, not, as now, any chance aspirant or intruder? |
|
[3081] Very true. |
|
[3082] Suppose, I said,
the study of philosophy to take the place of gymnastics and to be continued diligently and
earnestly and exclusively for twice the number of years which were passed in bodily
exercise--will that be enough? |
|
[3083] Would you say six
or four years? he asked. |
|
[3084] Say five years, I
replied; at the end of the time they must be sent down again into the den and compelled to
hold any military or other office which young men are qualified to hold: in this way they
will get their experience of life, and there will be an opportunity of trying whether,
when they are drawn all manner of ways by temptation, they will stand firm or flinch. |
|
[3085] And how long is
this stage of their lives to last? |
|
[3086] Fifteen years, I
answered; and when they have reached fifty years of age, then let those who still survive
and have distinguished themselves in every action of their lives, and in every branch of
knowledge, come at last to their consummation: the time has now arrived at which they must
raise the eye of the soul to the universal light which lightens all things, and behold the
absolute good; for that is the pattern according to which they are to order the State and
the lives of individuals, and the remainder of their own lives also; making philosophy
their chief pursuit, but, when their turn comes, toiling also at politics and ruling for
the public good, not as though they were performing some heroic action, but simply as a
matter of duty; and when they have brought up in each generation others like themselves
and left them in their place to be governors of the State, then they will depart to the
Islands of the Blessed and dwell there; and the city will give them public memorials and
sacrifices and honor them, if the Pythian oracle consent, as demigods, but if not, as in
any case blessed and divine. |
|
[3087] You are a sculptor,
Socrates, and have made statues of our governors faultless in beauty. |
| Note this. |
[3088] Yes, I said,
Glaucon, and of our governesses too; for you must not suppose that what I have been saying
applies to men only and not to women as far as their natures can go. |
|
[3089] There you are
right, he said, since we have made them to share in all things like the men. |
|
[3090] Well, I said, and
you would agree (would you not?) that what has been said about the State and the
government is not a mere dream, and although difficult, not impossible, but only possible
in the way which has been supposed; that is to say, when the true philosopher-kings are
born in a State, one or more of them, despising the honors of this present world which
they deem mean and worthless, esteeming above all things right and the honor that springs
from right, and regarding justice as the greatest and most necessary of all things, whose
ministers they are, and whose principles will be exalted by them when they set in order
their own city? |
|
[3091] How will they
proceed? |
|
[3092] They will begin by
sending out into the country all the inhabitants of the city who are more than ten years
old, and will take possession of their children, who will be unaffected by the habits of
their parents; these they will train in their own habits and laws, I mean in the laws
which we have given them: and in this way the State and constitution of which we were
speaking will soonest and most easily attain happiness, and the nation which has such a
constitution will gain most. |
|
[3093] Yes, that will be
the best way. And I think, Socrates, that you have very well described how, if ever, such
a constitution might come into being. Enough, then, of the perfect State, and of the man
who bears its image--there is no difficulty in seeing how we shall describe him. |
|
[3094] There is no
difficulty, he replied; and I agree with you in thinking that nothing more need be said. |